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Author: leercontainer-bugzilla

Description:
This bug comes as a result of the dicussion about the no.wikipedia use of the
"no" but does not concern or cross the no.wikipedia community in particular
(hard to get that right:).

As of Names.php rev. 1.16.2.1 the norwegian languages are written like this:

'nb' => 'Bokmål', # Norwegian (Bokmal)
'nn' => 'Nynorsk' , # (Norwegian) Nynorsk
'no' => 'Norsk', # Norwegian

to reflect the actual language situation, community consensus and proper
norwegian grammar they should be changed to:

'nb' => 'norsk (bokmål)', # Norwegian (Bokmal)
'nn' => 'norsk (nynorsk)', # Norwegian (Nynorsk)
'no' => 'norsk', # Norwegian

because language names are not capitalized in norwegian, and because Nynorsk is
just as norwegian as Bokmal.

This has been discussed/mentioned on the mailinglist:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.misc/18576
On the nn.wikipedia:
http://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia-diskusjon:Wikipedia_p%C3%A5_nynorsk
and has not been opposed by the no.wikipedia community (I'm not asking for the
no --> nb move here).
"Norwegian Nynorsk" is also used in the ISO 639 standard
http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/englangn.html#mn


Version: unspecified
Severity: normal
URL: http://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia-diskusjon:Wikipedia_p%C3%A5_nynorsk

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leercontainer-bugzilla wrote:

This should be applied to all branches.

jeluf wrote:

Fixed in all CVS branches and on the site.

leercontainer-bugzilla wrote:

I have upset some people with the change from "Norsk" to "norsk". If anyone
receive flak for this please send it to me and I will hopefully be able to
settle the issue.

I should note that when I wrote "does not concern or cross the no.wikipedia
community in particular" I wasn't really thinking about the above mentioned
change, because I hadn't been considering it for very long.

This is now being discussed here:
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Wolfram#Norsk_--.3E_norsk:_OK.3F

I have also tried to make a meta page that aim to make som kind of a standard
for these language names:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Case_of_language_links

leercontainer-bugzilla wrote:

So, there has almost only been opposition against the decapitalization and I
don't think its worth working against status quo on such a small thing.
Additionally the "nb" entry was duplicated when fixinf this bug, therefore I'm
reopening it so that:

  1. In revision 1.1.2.5.10 (REL1_3A) the 'nb' line appears twice. Here the first

appearance should replace the second.

  1. All mentioned language names should have their first letter capitalized (but

only the first).

The result should be:
'nb' => 'Norsk (bokmål)', # Norwegian (Bokmal)
'nn' => 'Norsk (nynorsk)', # Norwegian (Nynorsk)
'no' => 'Norsk', # Norwegian

I'm really sorry about this small messup, hopefully this is the end of it for
some time.

leercontainer-bugzilla wrote:

Updated Names.php from rev. 1.1.2.5.2.10 (1_3A branch)

I have edited Names.php rev. 1.1.2.5.2.10 (1_3A branch) to fix this bug. I have
also done additinal cosmetic changes (changed some comments), removed
duplicates, alphabetized and removed the last comma. Please do a diff to check.

Attached:

leercontainer-bugzilla wrote:

Updated Names.php from rev. 1.16.2.2 (1_4 and MAIN branches)

I have edited Names.php rev. 1.16.2.2 (1_4 and MAIN branches, as far as I can
see) to fix this bug. I have also done additinal cosmetic changes (changed some
comments), removed duplicates, alphabetized and removed the last comma. Please
do a diff to check.

Attached:

jeluf wrote:

Committed to four branches. Deployed to wikipedia.org