Toolbar should be off by default
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	Sep 3 2004, 3:01 AM

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Author: timwi

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BUG MIGRATED FROM SOURCEFORGE
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=962838&group_id=34373&atid=411192
Originally submitted by Piotr Matuszewski (matusz) 2004-05-29 20:00

Toolbar should not default to '''on'''. New users get
confused and have trouble getting the mess cleaned-up.
If I had fast contact to every new user, I could teach
them, but as it is, they just leave the mess be.
Frustration from constant cleaning shit from toolbar
makes me less friendly towards new users. That hurts
wikipedia.

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Severity: enhancement

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• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Lowest.Nov 21 2014, 6:48 PM

• bzimport added a project: MediaWiki-Page-editing.

• bzimport set Reference to bz279.

• bzimport added a subscriber: Unknown Object (MLST).

• bzimport created this task.Sep 3 2004, 3:01 AM

timwi wrote:

Exactly what "shit" does the toolbar produce that you are considering such a
nuisance? Please be more specific.

We had longish discussions on the mailing list about whether the toolbar should
be on or off by default before it was introduced. I seem to recall that the
principal argument for turning it on is that it is meant to be for new users who
are unfamiliar with the wiki syntax.

Toolbar is meant for newbies so they can easily format text.

They can just click every toolbar button then "preview" to see what
each button provide.

It's better to fix toolbar tests than syntax tests as they are easier
to detect and fixes.

timwi wrote:

*** Bug 298 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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